“Bird Droppings on my Telescope”

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1872553496 says:
December 21, 2009 at 3:47 am

Big bang or creator doesn’t exist to produced a giant materials in order to create a Universe. Impossible? This will not happen on the past the present and the future. Because the materials of Universe came from.Eternal Plain. This Universe & Eternal Plain has a life span in order to recycle again and again forever more and the Eternal Plain was the first made before the Universe made. Thank you & goodluck and may the Supreme of Love and Truth of Cosmos will Blessed you all.

1872553496 says:
December 21, 2009 at 4:52 am

0.01/0.01=1/1%=100×1%=1/1%=100×1/%=1 Recycle computation of Eternal plain and Universe. First 100 is Eternal Plain and second 100 is Universe.

FellowTraveller says:
December 22, 2009 at 11:13 am

this is a comment. I want to thank Mr Marshal as well as the other supporting staff of this web-site for creating then maintaining selfsame. I always “knew” that the Christian world-view was correct, but was at sea when I tried to describe exactly why that is so. No I know WHY that is, indeed, so. Good work and I intend to follow this web-site. also a big Thank You for bring Jesus the Christ back into my life. there ain’t no other suitable way to put that sentiment. FT

Perry Marshall says:
December 28, 2009 at 6:50 pm

Traveller,

Great to hear from you. Stop by again soon.

Forrest Charnock says:
January 3, 2010 at 10:24 am

Hi Fellow TravellerL

I am confused as to what you mean by the Christian Worldview.

Christianity is a branch of Judaism that accepts Jesus Christ as the Jewish Messiah and therefore the Saviour of the world,God Incarnate.

That belief is based on the Holy Bible which presents itself as the word of God , inerrant .

The worldview that the latests theory in “science” such as the Big Bang overrules the Bible, which it does, is a quasi-Christian worldview.
It accepts the vast majority of the atheist chronology of the world and sees man as almost an afterthought to God’s creation which includes hundreds of millions of years of death and suffering before Adam sinned and changes the character of God to a just and loving God who sent death as a punishment to one who was just to inept to do any better.

You cannot reconcile a 6 day creation with the earth formed from water on day one and the sun, moon and start on day four with the Big Bang and an earth that cooled slowly over billions of years no matter how many linguistics hoops you jump through.

The Christian worldview stands or falls on the truth of scripture. If your faith is so weak you cannot place God’s word over man’s changing ideas then Christianity is a man made religion, not the truth Jesus Christ taught it is.

I pray you reconsider “science” makes perfect sense through the eyes of scripture but you have to be strong enough to ley the naysayers whine.

Jesus Christ gave Himself up to be a man because He loved us and was mocked, tortured and hung on a cross. Getting laughed at is nothing, every 9 minutes a Christian dies today for their faith, those people reject the compromise of the BB.

FellowTraveller says:
January 5, 2010 at 4:41 pm

to Forrest Charnock

My Christian World View is very simple

“The Apostle’s Creed”

that sums it up in three words.

any questions or confusion, please feel free to further this discourse

Regards,

FT

Forrest Charnock says:
January 6, 2010 at 12:04 am

Dear Fellow Traveller:

The Apostles Creed holds up the authority of scripture, the BB holds up man as the authority on truth.

FellowTraveller says:
January 5, 2010 at 4:44 pm

Sorry, I forgot to add that it is the Lutheran form of the Apostle’s Creed, I learned as a child. THis was in the LCA (Lutheran Church of America) before that church turned … “weird” is the only way I can describe the transformation into current times.

Regards,

FT

FellowTraveller says:
January 6, 2010 at 7:54 am

Forrest Charnock says:
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Dear Fellow Traveller:
The Apostles Creed holds up the authority of scripture, the BB holds up man as the authority on truth.
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that sounds very nice. I am clueless as to your abbreviation of “BB”.

that said, that creed has several things going for it in my humble opinion.

it describes God the Father, Son and Holy GHost accurately.

I know it from memorizing it as a child

any one with some Christian education pretty much knows what it is and what it says.

it allows me to escape mind-numbing and interminable internet arguments concerning hair-splitting Christian Doctrine, Christian History and of the like.

it acts like a filter for me, as to ascertaining who is “on board” with the basics of Christianity and who isn’t.

my life’s mission is not that of being a missionary; I am inadequately equipped to do that .

since the Christian World View for me is reality, this creed is short and sweet declaration of selfsame.

people who have major problems with this short and sweet declaration of Christian Faith are those people who I do not want to engage with, in fruitless conversations about my Christian Faith.

I am very much a Let and Let Live kind of a guy, and the day is too short; nay life in general is too short, for me to fritter and waste it away, arguing fine details of CHristian Doctrine, or worse yet, endeavoring to counter arguments directed at me by very aggressive Atheists and Agnostics. WHo seem to want to declare their “open mindedness”, but become aggressively Anti-God, Anti-Jesus and Anti-Holy Ghost, when they learn (not from me by the way) of my Christian WOrld View.

In other words, I do not want to “cast pearls before swine”, or engage in arguments with people who only want to argue, and seek “victory” rather than compromise about the Christian Faith.

Not that I am wiling to compromise on said, but I will not waste even a minute of my life in answering those who seek to defame, critique, lambast or otherwise lower the standard of polite discourse, (which is usually the case when Christianity is brought up in the wider World).

I do not and will not ever “deny Christ” and I have had plenty of opportunities to do so for “advancement” within this physical realm we call existing down here on Planet Earth.

BUt I will not willingly expend large amounts of time, trying to convince those who do not want to even have an open mind, my Christian World.

That is time , perhaps, better spent in communing with other Believers such as myself.

I am here at this web-site because Perry has done the remarkable. (which I have remarked upon within my circle of friends and acquaintances). And what he has done is to marry Scientific Doctrine to Christianity in a sufficiently credible manner, that my personal Christian World View has been vastly strengthened, during a very recent massive crisis of Faith. He did this through recitation of scientific fact and logical reasoning. Both of which I adore.

I loiter here, spending a large amount of time (right her and now) in responding to your comment which, quite frankly I do not understand, so to thoroughly explain the core of my spiritual beliefs system.

I feel I have done the aforementioned to the best of my ability, and now look forward to reading more of Mr Marshall’s insights, rather than engage in wearying give and take concerning the fine points of Christianity.

As always, I extend to you (as to all)

My Regards,

FT

masoodreza says:
January 26, 2010 at 6:25 am

mr perry marshal
hello
i am a muslim student of islamic philosophy from Isfahan university in Iran
i found some books in cosmology and physics that have some claims about the beginning of the world like big bang theory and the first three minutes and others. in other hand in islamic traditions and holy Koran we have many evidences and utterances about how the universe has come to being. for example in Nahjul Balagha the book of imam ali,s utterances the first holy leader after prophet mohammad which has gathered by sayyed razi there are many sayings about this subject specially in the first presentation or lecture or utterance (accept my apologize my English is not very fluent) of the book.
it is very interesting that in this book what is called physics and what is called metaphysics are both explained and described in a way that sometimes you can see that one reality from the physical nature is explained in another aspect i mean metaphysically but you can not find out that how can the relationship between these two realities be? for example he is explaining the natural or physical reality of the sun , moon , stars and heaven then suddenly he explains the metaphysical aspect of that same reality i mean about the various kinds of angels and the fairies who can not peneterate to the high levels of the heaven.
this relationship just like the interrelation between soul and body is very ambiguous and mysterious for me do you have anything to say about it to me.
i wanted to have some researches by making a comparison between what the holy koran says and in detail you can find the full explanation of it in some books like nahjul balagha and bahar ol anvar writed by majlesi one of the best and supreme traditionalists in islam and what the new theories like big bang says about it but i haven’t had enough time to make the research yet and i recommend that you study these books and say your opinion about it to me because you have many information about the new theories. i will myself study the new theories.
there is some verse in quran like in surah zariat about the cosmology. please pay attention to this verse : and the heaven we constructed it with the power and we are makers of the things bigger and bigger. please refer to authenticited translations like arberry or shakir translation to find the best meaning for it. this verse says certainly what the new theories say about the world that it is becoming bigger and bigger.
another question is about the fairies. there are many evidences in quran and other islamic traditions that the body of a fairy is made of fire. can we have some researches about this to confirm or deny it?
you know that human being has been made of the soil and the water and the air according to what holy quran and traditional evidences say and we can see that what we can see in these matters we can see in the body of human being like the elments which are in the soil , air and water. can we claim that what is in the water should be in a body of a fairy what do you think about this?
at the end please introduce to me some main books written about the interrelation between soul and body or generally between physics and metaphysics and also i want to know you opinion about prophecy, revelation and religion and the certain role of it in 21th century human being’s life? i mean what does it have to represent for this scientific life of the new human being. i think the science in recent centuries has obtained a high grade for itself.
good luck
masoodreza motallebi

Perry Marshall says:
February 19, 2010 at 9:49 am

What is the relationship between the material and the immaterial?

I think that all you can do is listen to reports of people who say they have had metaphysical experiences. There are literally MILLIONS of people who say they’ve seen angels or demons etc etc. They describe such beings as being able to take on physical appearance at will.

Modern skeptics dismiss all this as crazy, but I don’t find their arguments persuasive. There are too many people, including friends of mine, who’ve had such experiences. There is too much consistency to the reports.

Something I see in the Bible is that demons desperately prefer to inhabit a person.

I do no embrace the Koran as an accurate interpretation of the spiritual world. I do embrace the Bible.

The first thing I’d recommend you do is listen to:

http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/audio/newevidence.htm

harshal says:
February 16, 2010 at 1:33 pm

Sir,
Doesn’t the String Theory rule out the predictions of the Big Bang Theory?
It says that many Big Bangs have taken place in the past unlike the Big Bang theory which says that everything evolved from one big explosion.
What can you say about this?

rickday56 says:
April 7, 2010 at 10:00 pm

Hi, this is my first post. As I understand it the universe was a singularity before the Big Bang under the effect of the strong nuclear force. My question is that if there is no force that can break the effect of the strong nuclear force how could there have been a Big Bang?

rickday56 says:
April 9, 2010 at 4:22 am

With respect to my last question. Einstein had his fudge factor which he admitted was his biggest mistake. Are we not doing the same here with a nudge factor that assumes that the big bang went off paradoxically against our own laws of physics. Personally, I am a Christian and believe that God was the force that made the Big Bang go off. However, I also believe that the speed of light is relevant to the expansion off the universe and when I was little I believed in Santa and the Easter Bunny.

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